{"id":35777,"date":"2026-04-16T09:51:03","date_gmt":"2026-04-16T16:51:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.podfeet.com\/blog\/?p=35777"},"modified":"2026-04-16T09:51:03","modified_gmt":"2026-04-16T16:51:03","slug":"ccatp-833","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podfeet.com\/blog\/2026\/04\/ccatp-833\/","title":{"rendered":"CCATP #833 \u2014 Joseph Nilo on Agentic AI with OpenClaw"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure style=\"float: right; margin: 5px\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podfeet.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Joseph-Nilo-Allison.png\" alt=\"two images combined - Joseph wearing a baseball hat with a big grin on his face and a mic in the foreground and below that Allison also grinning wearing headphones with a mic in the foreground. the vibe is super friendly and happy\" title=\"#title#\" width=\"400 \" height=\"725\"><figcaption style=\"text-align:center\"><\/figcaption>Joseph and I had a Great Time Recording<\/figure>\n<p>This week, our guest is a lovely gentleman named Joseph Nilo.  If you\u2019ve been listening to Apple podcasts since the dawn of podcasting, you may recognize that name. He was one of the original hosts of the Mac Roundtable podcast. I first \u201cmet\u201d Joseph on <a href =\"https:\/\/www.macroundtable.com\/2007\/07\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">July 29, 2007, when I made my debut appearance on the Mac Roundtable<\/a> with the great Tim Verpoorten and Don McAllister. Believe it or not, the Mac Roundtable website is still up and running (thanks to Adam Christianson), and you can listen to a full decade of shows.<\/p>\n<p>Joseph has been out of the podcasting business for a few years now, but he\u2019s still a fabulous nerd. He\u2019s one of the crazy ones, running the agentic AI software OpenClaw that seems to be sweeping the world by storm. In this conversation, Joseph explains what agentic tools like OpenClaw can do, how he&#8217;s deployed it locally, what guardrails he&#8217;s put up, and how safe he thinks it is to use. Spoiler: not safe at all!<\/p>\n<p>You can see Joseph&#8217;s work at <a href=\"http:\/\/josephnilo.com\/\" target=\"%5Fblank\" rel=\"noopener\">josephnilo.com\/&#8230;<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/hilomedia.com\/\" target=\"%5Fblank\" rel=\"noopener\">hilomedia.com\/&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-35777-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/nosillacast\/traffic.libsyn.com\/nosillacast\/CCATP_2026_04_16.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/nosillacast\/traffic.libsyn.com\/nosillacast\/CCATP_2026_04_16.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/nosillacast\/traffic.libsyn.com\/nosillacast\/CCATP_2026_04_16.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><a title=\"mp3 download\" href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/nosillacast\/traffic.libsyn.com\/nosillacast\/CCATP_2026_04_16.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">mp3 download<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Read an unedited, auto-generated transcript with chapter marks: <a href=\"https:\/\/podfeet.com\/transcripts\/CCATP_2026_04_16.html\">CCATP_2026_04_16<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joseph and I had a Great Time Recording This week, our guest is a lovely gentleman named Joseph Nilo. 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