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Wyze Just Keeps Getting Better – Smart Bulbs

Wyze BulbsIf you’ve been listening to the show for a long time, you know I’m a huge fan of the company Wyze, makers of a delightful and inexpensive security camera called Wyze Cam. Wyze branched out a while ago to add the Wzye Motion sensor and proximity sensors called Wyze Sense (think door/window open/close sensing). The theme of Wyze is to bring commodity hardware smart devices to us at incredibly low-cost but with really good software. This week they began shipping pre-orders of their new Wyze Bulbs. They’ve definitely done it again.

But before I tell you about the Wyze Bulbs, I want to tell you a story of one of the reasons I love this company so much.

In November 2017, the internet was hit with a vulnerability called KRACK. It affected pretty much every WiFi device, but a patched router would probably keep you safe, even if your devices inside your firewall were not patched.

I bought my first Wyze Cam in January of 2018 on the advice of good friend and fellow NosillaCastaway Joe La Greca. I wrote to support at Wyze to find out if they had patched their devices for the KRACK vulnerability. It was explained to me that since they buy the hardware from a commodity vendor, they don’t have a lot of influence over the hardware/firmware in the device. The tech support person promised to keep making noise to get it fixed by their hardware vendor.

I set up a schedule to bother Wyze every few months. After several times of bothering them, I found out it was the same guy writing back each time, a gentleman named Max Stoneking. Max eventually told me that I didn’t have to keep pinging him, because he had a Post-It note on his monitor to remind him to let me know when KRACK got fixed. He told me he even kept the Post-In note on his monitor when they moved offices! In January of this year, I had the pleasure of meeting Max in person at CES and we chatted yet again about KRACK.

Well, I have a big announcement to make. This week I got an email from Max that I’d like to read to you:

Hey! I just got this update, we have implemented the KRACK fix as of firmware version .108 for both Pan and Wyze Cam. Have a great day! 

– Max

How awesome is that? The more I deal with Wyze, the better I like the company.

About the Wyze Bulbs

Ok, with that fun story complete, let’s take a look at the Wyze Bulbs. Like my Wyze Sense devices, I bought the Wyze Bulbs via their Early Access Program. We don’t get special pricing or anything, but we get early delivery and we get a special discussion forum just for those willing to buy before reviews are out. Makes me feel like one of the cool kids.

Traditionally, smart bulbs have been stupid expensive. I think we paid around $100 each for the Phillips color Hue bulbs ages ago. Even today, Philips sells the Hue White bulbs in a 4-pack for $48. In contrast, the equivalent Wyze smart bulbs are $30 for a 4-pack. That’s 38% cheaper! Wyze Bulbs are WiFi connected, and so do not require any kind of hub, while the Hue Bulbs do require a hub which is an extra expense and complexity.

Wyze Bulbs are white, but you can adjust the brightness and the temperature using their app. The temperature goes from a colder, slightly blue hue to a warmer, slightly yellow tone.


WYZE select device to add The thing that didn’t surprise me at all was how easy it was to set up a Wyze Bulb. They really come through on the promise of ease of their software. The steps are:

  • Tap the 3 dots to Add a Product
    • Select the device type (they show you pictures to choose)
    • Put your phone on your 2.4GHz network, which is required by every single IoT device I’ve ever installed
    • The next step is fun – you turn the lamp with the new bulb on and off 3 times. You’ll know it’s successfully in pairing mode if the light slowly pulses.
    • The Wyze app will then ask if it’s found the correct 2.4GHz network and auto-fill the password (which is such a relief!)
    • Then you’ll be told to connect to the WiFi created by the bulb itself
    • In maybe 20 seconds or so you’ll be asked to name the bulb

And you know the last step, right? Let’s all sing along – apply a firmware update!

I’m mocking but I really like that Wyze comes out with pretty frequent firmware updates. They’re often bug fixes but just as often we get really cool feature updates. For example, they just added the ability for the cameras to detect people. That way you can make rules on whether the camera kicks on for only people or for every possible disturbance it views. You can even apply automation to other Wyze devices based on whether a camera sees a person.


While Hue bulbs work with all of the voice assistants, Wyze works with Amazon and Google’s Voice assistants, but not HomeKit. Don’t think I don’t nag Max about this. I thought maybe I’d connect Amazon’s voice assistant to my bulbs but as I started to add the skill I got a popup asking permission to “Give Amazon access to all of your cameras?” I have to say I backed out and quit the app. And that’s Amazon, not even Google. I know, my Ring cameras are now owned by Amazon, but I’ve got a little piece of mind because all of my Ring devices are outside my house. Wyze already can see inside my house, I’m not super excited about letting a second company do that.

In my experience with Home Automation using HomeKit, I don’t really like automation where you have to talk to it anyway. Running around the house yelling at it to do things isn’t nearly as enjoyable as having the house do what you want without you asking for it.

I’ve got lots of automation that knows what I want without me having to talk to the house. The Hue light in the family room comes on when I walk into the room. It turns red when the front door unlocks and it turns green when the door locks again, and then back to white a few minutes later.

My car unlocks when I walk up to it, my garage door opening option shows up on screen in my car when I get near the house. My August lock unlocks when I walk up to it with my phone, and it locks when I walk away from the house. This is what Home Automation is supposed to be like.

Wyze ActionsWyze bulbs can be trained to do our bidding too. There are 3 terms to know: shortcuts, actions and automation. It’s easier to explain in reverse order. An Automation is how you want the shortcut to be triggered. You can trigger via a time of day, or via an event. Events are triggered by devices. If you want motion sensing, you can use one of your Wyze Cams which have built in motion detection, and even to only do something when the camera sees a person. That way you don’t have things happening when those rotten cats are scampering around at night.

But what if the light is in a bedroom or some other room that creeps you out to have a camera? Enter the adorable $6 Wyze Motion sensor which is the perfect tool for the job. You can choose to have this automation occur when the Motion sensor detects motion, becomes clear, or has experienced one of those conditions for a certain amount of time. I think that’s to eliminate the problem of the lights turning off if you don’t move for a few minutes.

Wyze Motion
Wyze Motion

Now that you have an event, you can define what you want to have happen when that event occurs, and that’s called Actions. I put two bulbs in my den, and grouped them with the name Al Den. The actions I chose was to turn them on, and to set brightness to full and color temperature to the middle white.

I mentioned that you can either have the automation triggered by an event or by time of day, but not both. In my den I can have the lights come on when the Motion sensor detects motion, but I can’t say to only do that during the daytime. I asked about this in the double-secret, exclusive early access forum for Wyze, and within an hour or so WyzeMike answered that they have built a Conditions feature which will allow us to limit the action to only certain times or days and it’s coming in one of the next updates. So, yay!

To recap, you build shortcuts that are triggered by events, and cause an action through an automation. It’s flexible but it is a bit to keep track of. Once you have the shortcut built, you can choose whether to have it shown on the home screen of your app. In my example, I can now tap a single button and my Al Den bulb group will turn on. I created a second shortcut to turn the lights off when the motion sensor hasn’t detected motion for one minute.

Now the trick will be to remember to take the motion sensor out of my den or at least make it face a wall when we have company stay over since my den is also a guest room!

Bottom Line

The bottom line is that I really like the devices Wyze makes. They’re simple, do what they say on the tin, they’re inexpensive, the app is really good, they’re doing security right (according to Steve Gibson of Security Now) and most importantly, the company itself is super responsive, and is iterating quickly. I wish they were HomeKit-compatible, but maybe my nagging will make that happen some day!

If you’re interested in all things Wyze, check them out at wyze.com.

5 thoughts on “Wyze Just Keeps Getting Better – Smart Bulbs

  1. Rick - July 18, 2019

    I have the Wyze bulb 4 pack and sensor kit. I really haven’t found a strong use case for automating my lights when I’m around. I bought them because I am leaving on an international’s trip and I wanted to use the vacation mode to turn the bulbs on/off randomly when we are away and to be able to light the house if a camera senses anything unusual.

    I’ve set up just one Wyze bulb so far to test and it works as you said in the post, but I have had it disconnect and go offline unexpectedly twice. I had to turn the power switch to the light on and off once to get it to reconnect. That’s a bit disconcerting but I’m sure if its a software issue an update will be provided to fix it.

    On a related note, the Detect Person feature they added recently is a nice add but doesn’t always work with my 3 Wyze cams. I’ve been sharing the videos with Wyze through the app when they don’t correctly distinguish a person from other motion. Hopefully over time that will also get better.

  2. Anonymous - July 18, 2019

    See I said Wyze would make a great topic.

    Bob Fitzhugh

  3. Steve Davidson - July 22, 2019

    Oh, Allison! That (above) ruined it for me. You had previously sold me on Wyze — in fact, I browsed their Web site last week with an eye towards eventually buying something. But the fact that just last week they got around to patching the KRACK vulnerability has soured me on them. I think the second rule of any IoT device is to protect the privacy and security of the consumer (the first rule being to make something good). It has been 22 months since the KRACK vulnerability was revealed, and fixes have been available for just about everything else since shortly thereafter. It concerns me that they consciously decided not to address it for so long. What else are they not bothering with?

    I have avoided smart home / IoT devices precisely because “I have trust issues” with companies that produce essentially disposable devices, and therefore no long-term commitment to support and maintenance (including staying patched and secure). Apple keeps me in their ecosystem because, in part, of their commitment to privacy and security (and I’m happy to pay a little more for their products). I suppose with the low prices, it was too much to expect that Wyze would have a privacy/security focus. Bummer.

  4. podfeet - July 22, 2019

    I think you misunderstand, Steve. They did not “consciously decide not to address it.” They DID address it, but the control of patching is in the hands of the hardware manufacturer, not Wyze. They badgered them until they did patch it.

    That said, my understanding from talking to Bart about this is, as I said, that if your _router_ is patched, the internal devices are not likely to be compromised by the KRACK vulnerability. I think you would be very surprised at how many devices in your home are not patched. Let’s start with your printer – does it have WiFi? Have you ever gotten a firmware update for it? I sure haven’t for mine!

  5. Anonymous - July 28, 2019

    Allison, you are right; I did misunderstood. Clearly not Wyse’s fault — they were hostage to their hardware supplier (which, is a bit worrisome too). Regarding other devices on my network, I can tell you unequivocally that everything here has been patched within the past few months. Things that don’t get patched, don’t get to stay. Remember, I use iNet Network Scanner, so I have a good handle on what’s there (aside: my work computer lives on the guest network because they are slow to patch). Right now, my TiVo box is on the “watch list” (and I have a note into their tech support to ask about the most recent round of Linux-applicable CVEs — it’s always good to apply pressure, but I don’t have the “bully pulpit” that you can wield).

    Regarding the printer (which is on Wi-Fi, though, I can access it via Printer Sharing from my wife’s (nearly always-on iMac), Epson provides a “watcher” program that I have running on that iMac, and it notifies me when there is a firmware update. They seem to occur at 4-7 month intervals, and I recall there was one as recently as this spring (thought I don’t recall what was patched this time, they have been pretty good about supporting their products).

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